this might be confusing to think about.
we know that as you approach the speed of light, time slows down, if you were in a spaceship, time goes by quicker on earth.
we also know that distances between planets and such are measured at 'light years'.
I'm guessing you've seen "Interstellar". I can't think of another movie which addresses this issue quite so well.
Huh....yeah I saw that movie, but couldn't remember anything related to time dilation (or anything beyond Sandra Bullock outside a space station).
So I checked out the movie's plot. I found out that Sandra starred in Gravity not Interstellar, and the general description of rang enough bells to remember the time dilation stuff somewhat. I guess it's time to view that movie again.
have you ever logged onto the http://mt2414.com/ web site?
is it a mirror domain name or is it for some other purpose?.
do elders report to the service dept.
It's a mirror domain. They have quite a few of these. The purpose is to circumvent censorship and government blockades when the jw.org domain is blocked.
The login is indeed for elders and CO, to receive letters from the branch, email each other, order literature and report hours and stuff.
The same login page is also on JW.org (see "login" in the links on the bottom of the page): https://apps.jw.org/E_LOGIN1
this might be confusing to think about.
we know that as you approach the speed of light, time slows down, if you were in a spaceship, time goes by quicker on earth.
we also know that distances between planets and such are measured at 'light years'.
Forgetting the part that we would need literally an infinite amount of energy to get to the speed of light in the first place, time would stand still for someone travelling at the speed of light. So from the traveller's point of view, they'll arrive at their destination at the very moment they hit the speed of light.
http://www.emc2-explained.info/Time-Dilation/
But let's say the traveller reaches a speed very close to the speed of light, and travels a 1000 years from our point of view. Then in their frame of reference they arrive much sooner, perhaps after their calendars, clocks and bodies have progressed 50 years.
This is also one of the (currently hypothetical) problems of interstellar travel: even if we manage to reach speeds close to the speed of light, and manage to travel to another star and maybe even back....the travellers may have survived the trip....but here on Earth a much, much larger time has passed. When the travellers return, their family and colleagues have already died millenia ago. Perhaps even humanity doesn't exist anymore. A strange thing to contemplate. Someone should make a movie out of that :-)
I guess the best way to appear to be travelling close to the speed of light is by being able to exploit 'wormholes', time-space curves, etc.
remember when we were jws and all loved to hear demon stories?
and then there was always that paranoid person that would shut us up "in case they're listening"?
and the resident crazy every congregation seems to have that claims to have been possessed at some point?.
Nice to see the face with the name!
Also Disney got their impression of witches all wrong! This young lady doesn't appear wrinkly, old, smelly or anything like that at all.
Or was she shapeshifting to deceive us all?
about birthdays.
several days ago i was waiting at the deli for the next batch of fried chicken when a man in his sixties came in.
he had called in his order two days earlier.
And that's exactly why birthdays and all other common occasions that bring families together are forbidden. New recruits stop being with their families. This creates a rift and resentment in the family. Watchtower blames this on the family of course.
And this separation from supportive family is exactly what cults want to achieve. They want the cult to be the only support and social circle to the members, so it's harder for them to leave.
so i've just seen a snippet of a new convention release, and it's obviously a reenactment (bloody poor one - look at the state of the disposable beards lol!
) of bible times.. the chap speaking is heard saying if your family members turn away and serve false gods, you should kill them!.
https://twitter.com/jfnilsen/status/1133000862719270912?s=09.
Thanks Olig!
so i've just seen a snippet of a new convention release, and it's obviously a reenactment (bloody poor one - look at the state of the disposable beards lol!
) of bible times.. the chap speaking is heard saying if your family members turn away and serve false gods, you should kill them!.
https://twitter.com/jfnilsen/status/1133000862719270912?s=09.
Holy shit. Not that this is any different from what they have said for years, but reading dry texts just doesn't come across the same as seeing a movie.
I guess this is all the ammo I need to make sure my daughter doesn't visit the convention.
Btw I read somewhere there's also a part in the video where the guy actually kills his own Baal priest father....anyone have a link to that video?
they can edit their own versions to conform to their doctrines but what's stopping people to hand flyers or glue posters with the actual quotes in contradiction to their statements?.
examples:.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-the-holy-spirit/ - http://archive.is/778ch .
That will never happen coz God has left the universe !
Interestingly, according to Bible theology God always resided outside the universe. After all, He supposedly existed before He created the universe.
The average JW otoh never think about anything outside the universe.
Watchtower keeps blabbering about universal sovereignty....as if God is not sovereign outside the universe in their theology.
God lives in the heavens. God also created the heavens in the beginning. So where did He live before He created the heavens?
Yeah I know, logic against myths....
so it was brought up lately that my lack of faith is partially do to stories in the bible like the one in samuel where god kills david’s first born son.
the excuse i heard today wasn’t that god killed david’s son no he just didn’t bless him so then he died.
wtf!!!
The parable of the Good Samaritan implies that if someone needs your help and you don't help them, you're not a nice person.
There's plenty of Bible verses that indicate that you should help people of.you can, and if you don't you're an asshole.
Supposedly life is sacred, but apparently not to God.
But hey, pathetic excuses is what you get when trying to make sense of contradicting stories and myths with obsolete morals...
i was doing some browsing today on http://watchtowerletters.com and discovered a very thought provoking point.
the fact is that the flood of noah's day does not stand up to scientific scrutiny or common sense.
this becomes all the more apparent when considering an ancient story like the epic of gilgamesh.
Jup.
Likewise with literal Adam and Eve, created in 4026BC. That absolutely didn't happen. If not, then the whole original sin and redemption don't follow from the story either.
In fact even the Bible claims that Jesus is the bigger Adam or something. Since Adam is a mythical person, so is Jesus.
Apparently quite a few Christian churches seem to be able to make their theology work regardless, but I don't see it.
